There's good news; there's bad news. According to Phil Richards, the Colts will be without Coby Fleener and Vontae Davis this Sunday. Davis has a sprained knee (glad we got him back, eh?), and Fleener's slightly dislocated his left shoulder. Actually, according to Richards, it's a subluxation, or temporary, partial dislocation of his left shoulder. In other news, I hurt my right index finger while playing guitar yesterday; my roommates will be without the melodic sounds of Crosby, Stills, and Nash for the next two weeks.
On the bright side of life, Robert Mathis may be lining up against Miami.
[Mathis] was a limited practice participant Wednesday and, after missing three games with a sprained left knee, Arians hopes he will play Sunday, barring further problems.
Moala might be back next week, and Richards also has an update on Andrew Luck, who's knee seems to be fine. In a case like that, no news truly is good news. Let's be honest: if Luck goes down, the Colts are dead. Roadkill. You get the picture.
I'm sorry, but I don't think I get your point about Coby Fleener ... Just who are you ridiculing? And why?
@andreaallennyc I think it's ridiculous, that's all. Two weeks? Either they're playing up the time he'll be out, or they're just being too cautious ... but next week's NOT a good week to miss.
@LouPin Maybe you are underestimating how long it will take to heal. Maybe they want to be cautious in their ESTIMATE because they don't know how long it will take to heal and would rather have him ready earlier than the expectations than later ... and have him have to deal with all the fallout/speculation about that. Maybe they put a higher value on the long term health of their players than you do.
@LouPin you don't know the data, If you are simply counting concussions. That's fine, there is no reason you should ,,, except if your're going to be so opinionated. These are complex issues, but obviously you don't know much about Fleener's injury (unless you have inside information), so try not to get so frustrated by the decision. If they were so remiss in protecting Collie (in your opinion), why are you so certain they are being overprotective about Fleener? Given that the next two games are so close together, it doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me to hold players out for both if they are injured and then play them against New England.
@andreaallennyc The Colts should have pressured the league to ban Collie and other players from playing, after their second concussion. As for Fleener ... all I'm saying is that most teams would take him out for a week, and then get him practicing again. Basically, 'out for 1-2 weeks'. By declaring him out for 2 weeks, the Colts are taking him out of games against Miami and Jacksonville so he can come back against New England. Does that seem smart to you? Actually, don't answer that - I'm done here. Have a nice day :)
@LouPin H@LouPin what do you think the team should have done about that? Concussions are much more complex than shoulder injuries ... A least in terms of understanding recovery. I don't have a good answer for the Collie situation; I sort of hoped he would retire but did think that was his decision. There are tests for post concussive symptoms. It seems the Colts kept him out and followed the protocol that neurologists and psychologists recommend. At the point where a player has no symptoms, should the club make the decision to end a player's career or should they leave it to the player? I'm a psychologist and know that the literature shows you cannot predict long term consequences for those who are not showing post concussive symptoms. So I don't think the ehitcs or good judgment is clear here. But the situation is totally different for shoulder, knee, etc injuries where recovery from symptoms actually tracks real long term recovery (unlike with concussions). But I suspect you have no interest in an actual discussion of the issues.
@andreaallennyc Hm. Long term health of players like Austin Collie?