Only med staff can see Manning throw
When GM Ryan Grigson and new head coach Chuck Pagano said they had not seen Peyton Manning throw they were being quite honest, albeit they didn't give you the whole story. They actually are forbidden by the collective bargaining agreement from seeing him throw:
The problem, the Colts told NFL Network’s Albert Breer, is that no team officials outside of medical personnel can watch Manning throw until April because of rules in the new collective bargaining agreement. Since Manning failed his exit physical after neck surgery, only trainers are permitted to observe him and can report back, but by rule can’t tape any workouts.
So owner Jim Irsay, general manager Ryan Grigson and coach Chuck Pagano won’t have a firsthand look at how Manning is performing before March 8, the deadline for the team to decide whether or not to pay him a $28 million roster bonus.
That's not to say the Colts were intentionally misleading anyone by not mentioning this fact. Rather, the more disconcerting point is that the team will have to take a $28 million leap of faith based soley on gut instinct, emotion and the word of their training staff.
To me, this fact doesn't bode well for Manning's future in Indianapolis.
Nothing I have seen quoted from the CBA says this. The article we see quoted often, says players may not participate in team organized activities. It doesn't mention rehab at all. It doesn't dictate whether a GM or Coach or owner can watch a rehab assignment. It doesnt prohibit passing drills as part of rehab to strengthen the arm or to measure progress in strengthening the arm. Has anyone seen part of the CBA quoted that actually says what all the headlines say it says?
@19>18 Well, kind sir, if you had read my post... :-) Here's the text from the CBA which, if I'm reading it correctly, basically says a neither a coach nor coaching staff can supervise or participate in any workouts. I think that also means "watch". Here's the text:
Prior to the commencement of the Club’s official offseason workout program: (i) players may not receive daily workout payments or workout bonuses of any kind, and may not be paid or reimbursed expenses for travel, board or lodging; (ii) players are not permitted to participate in Club-supervised workouts, Club-supervised practices, group or individual meetings with coaches, group or individual film study with coaches, or group or individual playbook study with coaches; (iii) the Club’s strength and conditioning coaches may not direct players’ individual workouts, but may supervise use of the weight room to prevent injury and to correct misuse of equipment; and (iv) players’ activities may not be directed or supervised by any coaches. In addition, nothing herein shall prevent a Club from permitting an individual player to work out on his own on weekends after the Club’s official offseason program has commenced, or at any time after the Club’s official offseason workout program has ended, using Club facilities if he wishes to do so, subject to the restrictions set forth in the immediately preceding sentence of this Subsection, except that no club official may indicate to a player that such individual workouts are not voluntary, or that a player’s failure to participate in such workouts will result in the player’s failure to make the Club (or that a player’s failure to participate in a workout program or classroom instruction will result in the player’s failure to make the Club or result in any other adverse consequences affecting his working conditions).
This is the clause I referred to that we have all seen quoted all over the place. Why do you think that a prohobition against supervising or participating equates to a prohobition against the coaches being present or observing a sanctioned rehab workout? Are Grigson and Pagano prohibited from using the gym while the players are in it because they might see a strength and conditioning workout? Why would a rehab assignment be any different? Is a rehab assignment prohobited from including football activity like taking snaps and throwing? This document was prepared by lawyers who know how to say what they mean to say.The thrust of this whole fragment is quite clearly to prevent the club from using threat or force or inducement toplayers to participate in drills during a period meant to exist as '"off" time for the players. I do not agree that anything in the quoted section prohibits coaches, GM or owner from observing a rehab session that might or might not include passing. We have heard reference to rules separate from these that govern rehab of players, specifically those that did not pass the last club physical. I am wondering if these carry more specific exclusions because I do not agree with your read of this section keeping team officials from observing Manning throw.
That's sort of ridiculous, no? What's the rationale behind not allowing anyone but med staff to see him? But on the conspiracy side, it does allow Irsay to let Manning go under the "I never knew for sure if he was back to normal".
