ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting that WR Reggie Wayne is done for the year with a torn ACL. The injury was suffered during the 4th quarter of last night's 39-33 victory over the Denver Broncos. It was, similar to Anthony Gonzalez's knee injury in 2009, a non-contact injury. Wayne had started 189-consecutive games, dating back to his rookie year, when he missed time due to a PCL strain.
No word yet on what, if any moves the Colts plan to make to fill the enormous void Wayne's absence creates.
1) Is this the end? Many are speculating that an ACL injury for a 34-year old WR is a career-ender. I'm not so sure. Sure, for some - especially those who rely on speed, quickness, agility, athleticism (insert 15 other words that mean the same thing) - it would be a major roadblock towards a comeback. But Reggie isn't one of those guys. He relies on brains, route running, and an ability to make tough catches in traffic.
His days as a #1 are over, but those days were probably already behind them as Reggie was more of a possession receiver this year. He could, if he chooses, still come back and make big contributions in that possession receiver role.
2) Where do we go from here? I think the Colts have enough speed and play-making ability on the outside with Hilton, DHB and Brazill. What they are lacking now - with both Wayne AND Allen on IR - is someone who can make the tough catches over-the-middle and on 3rd-down. If Grigson is looking for a trade, that's what he should be looking for.
The first name that comes to mind is Atlanta TE Tony Gonzalez. While the TE has said he doesn't want to "jump ship," maybe he could be convinced to go on one last run with a young phenom.
Outside of a trade, look for WR Griff Whalen to be promoted from the Practice Squad. While not supremely gifted, Whalen is more of a possession guy and is better suited to fill the current needs.
I do expect Grigson to at least explore the trade market. Will it be a big name? Probably. That's what Grigson does.
We'll have more on this as it develops.
I wonder if Austin Collie or Dallas Clark would be willing to come back and rep the Horseshoe. Although looking at Dallas' numbers he looks to be putting up pre-09 numbers 23 receptions for 265 yards and 2 TDs though 7 games.
I've been saying it all day today: Go. After. Doug. Baldwin. Good timing with Percy Harvin about to come back, and Baldwin and Luck have a history from Stanford. Relatively cheap, too, when you compare him to other WRs people are mentioning.
I think Grigson should double down on "aggressive" trades. He should send the 2014 2nd rounder AND the 2015 1st rounder to Kansas city for Dwayne Bowe!
I said this in the other thread, but I really hope Grigson doesn't go too hard after anyone in particular. I question whether we have the picks or the personnel to deal for anyone worth the sacrifice. Furthermore, if Irsay/ Grigson are all in on the early 2000s Pats model, they'll let Luck work with whoever they can scrape together (including Whalen) and count on their elite QB to cover mistakes and make his receivers look good.
I didn't think it was possible for me to hate the Richardson trade any more, but after last night, wow do I ever hate it more.
As crazy as that game was, this was the craziest, worst part. I couldn't even watch the replays.
Obviously, there's nothing positive to take away from this, but I thought Luck's reaction was remarkable. The way he took the blame for the throw after the game was perfect, even if somewhat unfair to himself. (Even great QBs can't beat the turf monster.) And watching him slap his hands to his helmet was devastating, but it said more about his character and passion and commitment to his team than any soundbite could.
Hakeem Nicks would fit the need perfectly right now. Cost would be little to nothing with Giants almost dead to rights in the NFC East. He is a FA at the close of this year, and would cost nothing more than picking up the bill for him and possibly a conditional late draft pick. On the other end GMen would likely let him go, as he has already been a headache for them, and they appear to be committed to Cruz in the long run. I don't see how this isn't a win-win for the Colts. Other option would be Kenny Britt, but I doubt Titans will trade to a team within the division. I don't like the Brandon Lloyd selection, as he had less burst than Trent Richardson (which is difficult to do). Really out of the box move would be to see if a team like the Rams would part with one of their 1000 possession receivers in return for possibly Matt Hasselbeck, given their sudden need for a QB, but once again, that is out of the box and a clear stretch IMO.
Only positive to standing pat and not making a move would be TY Hilton comes onto the field full time, and could show that he can be the player the Colts need him to be given the opportunity to play a more consistent number of snaps. Would like to see Da'Rick Rogers get the call. Kid can flat out play, and if the Colts can find a way to keep him out of trouble, he could be a special player.
I really don't care at all about the win last night. This Reggie injury completely overshadows everything. Hoping for the best possible recovery and that he can come next season and still chase Canton.
As for replacing him.....I don't like the idea of trading anyone this late into the season, the complexities of learning the playbook would be so daunting and to lose another draft pick would hurt the franchise going forward.
Tony Gonzalez... < 2 minutes later after daydream sequence > can you imagine what that would take in terms of trade capital? Soooooo, let's convince them to trade TG for TR, straight up.
We're going to miss Reggie's downfield blocking as much as anything. Look who was opening up the endzone for DHB and Luck on their TDs. I am more optimistic about his return than most.
This makes me so sad. I was so ready to go back into happy fan mode after an emotional week and then this? Dammit!
More importantly I think this goes without saying... COLTS NEED TO TARGET #1 RECEIVER IN NEXT YEAR'S DRAFT!
I fully expect Griff to be activated just because 1. Luck does had rapport with him and 2. even if someone is brought in, it could take weeks for them to get acquainted with the offense.
But I think more than someone who can make the tough catches over the middle (which is something we should look for) is someone with reliable hands. One thing for sure is that both Hilton and DHB have shown tendencies to drop passes. Although I can't say Wayne didn't drop any passes, he was still pretty reliable. someone that was a security blanket for Luck whenever there was a tough situation.
Even though there really isn't any "security blanket" that can be brought in since that requires trust and such, someone that has good hands and is reliable would go a long way in doing so.
I think Gonzalez fits the fill, I am afraid how much ATL would ask for him. And I am kinda afrad Grigz would be willing to give big for someone that could make the impact, and I would not be okay with giving up a lot for him. I was okay with TRich trade because that's something that could be a long term solution or at least a long term problem. I'm okay with investing in long term plans... not a fan of paying big for just this year
Ugh, I hope this doesn't end like Marvin's career did. Reggie was so full of rejuvenation the past two years....
I'd trade that win for Reggie's ACL any day. We could still win the division without that win. I am less confident without 87.
Great team win, though.... Aagh, I'm sick.
@Sandtiger Why would their current teams let them leave? And we had Collie and let him go so there's that...
@JoshFenio Seattle would take their pound of flesh for him. Not only does it weaken their WR corp when Harvin isn't the most durable player, it also strengthens a possible SB opponent.
@ColtsHead_Ben I keep thinking if I just hate it hard enough, he'll either turn into Jim Brown or the football gods will give us our pick back. Too bad Gene Smith ain't still in Jax; I bet Grigzszszy could fool him into bailing the Colts out ... you know, the way the Browns did to the Colts.
@pierrezombie I noticed that Reggies followed off the field by Mathis and Bethea. The core guyd knew this was bad.
@steveb19 I like your ideas Steve. Try to forward them to Grigson. :)
@matt_has Can't we just get it over with and trade our entire 2015 draft for AJ Green? :)
More seriously, what do you think ATL would want for Gonzalez? I can't even guess.
@mshah9008 We don't have the pick for that.
@authorbeard @ColtsHead_Ben I hate to say it I'm starting to not like TR as much. I liked him at first and thought we gave up too much but we got a good player. He still shows flashes, but now he has a fumbling problem he's never had before, and he isn't AP or Barry Sanders, so he can't live with a bad line. If you give him the Patriots line, he might end up being a halfway decent back. But now I'm down on him. Ugh.
@pierrezombie @matt_has It's so strange playing this 'trade speculation' game after years of consistency and building your team from within. Is TG even going to play next year? What they would want in general would probably differ from what they'd want from Grigson – as someone else noted, the trade for TRich kind of exposed him w/regard to being willing to "spend". If some kind of trade does happen, I fear what it could do to our long-term outlook.
@gizzardfanny I am of the belief that #1 receivers can still be found in 2nd round! They may not be ready to be #1 from game one, but idk if that would be a requirement. I do think Wayne comes back and plays next year.
@matt_has I would wholly endorse that trade, if only so that my Livefyre name would make sense again.
@matt_has @pierrezombie Well, now that we know Irsay expects at least two rings every 14 years, as long as Grigs only trades away 7 years of draft value to WIN NOW, it should all work out fine. Right?
Yeah, your first point is spot on. It's like we've landed in Colts Bizarro World. Someone gets hurt and the first rational thing to think is "How much is this going to cost us in draft picks?"
@mshah9008 @gizzardfanny You can but they are rare. If you look around at most of the #1 WRs in the league, they are 1st round draft picks, usually high 1st rounders. We are going to have a low 2nd round pick in all likelihood. Good thing we have Richardson and Havili though. They can line up out wide