Looking Forward: The Colts Need Turnovers

Written by Kyle J. Rodriguez on .

Among the plethora of issues on the 2011 team was a complete lack of turnovers forced by the defense. 

In 2011, the Colts forced just 17 turnovers for the season, the third worst in the NFL. 2010 was just a litttle better, with 21 turnovers putting them at 5th worst in the league. 

In fact, that lack of playmaking from a defensive end was a big reason why Chuck Pagano and Greg Manusky, directors of aggressive, unpredictable defenses, were hired. The new 3-4 defense may give up more big plays than the tired, old Tampa-2, but it would offset that by producing turnovers and big plays.

At least, that was the idea.

So far, that hasn't worked out. 

The Colts have forced just two turnovers in three games, and are on pace for just 11 turnovers, which would tie the all-time NFL low set by the Baltimore Colts in 1982. 

This isn't an issue that is new for either Chuck Pagano or Greg Manusky. 

Despite being touted as 3-4 coaches who coach defenses known for making big plays, a quick look at their history says that is not the case. 

Greg Manusky was a defensive coordinator for five years prior to joining the Colts. From 2007-2010 he was with the San Fransisco 49ers, and then coordinated the defense for the San Diego Chargers in 2011. 

Of those five years, Manusky's defenses were in the top half of the leage in takeaways just once. The rest of the time they were near the bottom each year. The San Fransisco team that he coached for four years, but only had one good year with them? They led the league with 38 takeaways in 2011, the year after he left. San Diego is currently tied for fourth in the league with nine so far this season. Last year, under Manusky, they forced just 21 turnovers, 26th in the league.

Pagano was a coordinator for just one year, and he's not in charge of the Colts' defense, but I think it's still relevant to mention that his Ravens, despite having a plethora of playmakers (Suggs, Lewis, Reed, Webb, Ngata) and finding a lot of success in rushing the quarterback (third in the league with 48 sacks) were only 13th in the leage last year. 

Quite frankly, this is a problem that must be resolved if the Colts wish to have any success this season. 

It's not a problem of pressure on the quarterback; the Colts' primary pass rushers have actually done a decent job of pressuring the quarterback this season. 

Jerry Hughes (5th) and Robert Mathis (13th) are both in the top 15 among 3-4 outside linebackers in pressures per snap. They are also both in the top 25 (9th and 24th, respectively) in terms of all primary edge rushers (4-3 ends and 3-4 linebackers). Only seven teams have multiple players in that top 25; the Colts have the lowest amount of turnovers of that group. 

(Sidebar: Hughes needs more snaps. He has by far the lowest amount of snaps of anybody in the top 15 OLBs in pressures per snap. He needs more opportunities to rush the passer.)

I don't know exactly what the problem is, but there are several things that could help. 

A. Put Vontae Davis in more man-to-man situations. Davis was billed as a corner whose strength was man-to-man, press coverage. But, so far, he's been put in zone coverages far more often than I would like.

B. Jerraud Powers needs to catch the ball. Powers has had at least two, possibly three, missed opportunities at picks so far this season. He'll get more chances, he just needs to pull them in. 

C. Jerry Hughes needs to complete the play. Hughes has the most pressures per play on the team, but only has one sack. He needs to improve at finishing the play and getting the sack, which could translate to one or two forced fumbles. 

D. Dwight Freeney returns. If he's the Freeney of old, he's good for a couple strip sacks. 

Look, I'm not a defensive coordinator, and I don't pretend to be. But, I know that the number of takeaways has to improve. 

How it happenes doesn't matter to me. It just needs to happen.

31 comments
TomBriggs
TomBriggs

Would you guys rather us grab one of the top pass rushers in the draft (Jones/Montegomery) or another high level corner to pair with Davis (Amerson/Banks)?  I hope Chapman fully recovers and can be our NT of the future.

David
David like.author.displayName 1 Like

The reason all the comments aren't showing?

MarcusDugan
MarcusDugan

Sometimes for me, they don't show up.  It's usually a browser problem on my end.

Kyle Rodriguez
Kyle Rodriguez moderator

Are they not? The comment count includes the twitter comments, shown below. 

CrizzleColts
CrizzleColts

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ChrisShepherd
ChrisShepherd

For starters we're playing with a new scheme and a ton of new guys to fit the scheme. The talent isn't there but there's no way you can blame grigson for that, the guy had half an offseason to try to rebuild an entire team. As it looks right now he did a pretty bang up job with the skill positions on O with no apparent busts. The defense needs time and better players. Both things are bound to happen, but we just lost our coach. By all accounts we should have a top 5 pick this year. I don't want it to happen I would love to have our D lead the league in takeaways and win out. It's just too much to ask this year.

mattshedd
mattshedd

 @ChrisShepherd I agree that Grigson can't be blamed yet (my statement in another comment was purely sarcasm).  However, as a point of clarity, he did have an entire offseason to try to rebuild the team.  He was hired quickly after the season ended, before Free Agency or the Draft.  Also, it is hard to say whether he drafted any busts, or disappointments for that matter.  Fleenor for one has not lived up to the hype (which was way too high for a 2nd round pick) yet.

 

 

ChrisShepherd
ChrisShepherd

@mattshedd You're right as a technicality he did have an entire offseason. The reason I will continue to contend that he really only had half of one is due to the fact he had no idea that he would be the general manager of a team come offseason. He wasn't planning like a GM he was planning like a scout. Like I said, no obvious busts. Fleener's game is based on speed and getting vertical the linebackers in the NFL are exponentially faster and it may take time for him to adjust. And he may never! If that happens he's a bust but as of right now there haven't been any Ryan Leaf like blowups from any of our rookies.

Kyle Rodriguez
Kyle Rodriguez moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ChrisShepherd I'm not saying they need to lead the league, but last in the league isn't good enough. Worst ever certainly isn't.

ChrisShepherd
ChrisShepherd

@Kyle Rodriguez You're absolutely right. I would like to see the scheme create some int's. Which is why I'm willing to be patient. it's a new scheme and a lot of guys who are new to it. But you're right by midseason it should pick up. If not we may have more serious problems on that side of the ball than anyone thought.

bradicus18
bradicus18

I don't see this improving.  I remain skeptical of the decision to make Manusky the D-coordinator.  We shall see if the defense improves as the year goes on but takeaways, as the Bears proved last night, are big in the changing the outlook of games and the perception of a defense.

mattshedd
mattshedd like.author.displayName 1 Like

I bet Grigson can fix it by hiring second stringers from Baltimore and Philly...

DougEngland
DougEngland

 @mattshedd I know you are just kidding, but I can't help but laugh at this.  (And as with all great humor, there has to be an element of truth.)

Fondue
Fondue

And these low amounts of turnovers have come facing the likes of Jay Cutler, Christian Ponder, Adrian Peterson, and Blaine Gabbert... uh oh.

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