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Check it to Pancakes Podcast Open Thread - 4/4/2012

Written by Greg Cowan on .

Join Laura Calaway, Greg Cowan and a mystery Co-Host as they discuss the latest news and notes from the Indianapolis Colts 2012 off-season. Topics tonight will include: The Colts new Unis, RGIII declining private workouts, Tom Moore and Andrew Luck, the Colts 2012 Preseason Schedule, and more!


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The show will run from 10pm – 12am ET.

Show notes:

10:05pm – 11:00pm: Discussing the latest Colts news and notes from the past week: New Unis, preseason schedule, RGIII declines private work outs, and more

11:00pm - ??:??am: Listener Calls; When your calls end, so does the show

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coltsauth_todd
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This week we wrote some cheerleader fan-fiction, talked briefly with someone claiming to be Michelle Tafoya and learned that Tom Moore spent his formative years on a dude ranch. Laura didn't discuss beards but did help us a bit while trying to figure out which west coast schools actually have football programs. Greg offended fewer people than normal for which he was awarded the Silver Spatula. And finally, Rohan returned.

 

Tune in next week when Greg will keep saying, "short and stubby" while Laura continues to put up with this nonsense. 

 

Same pancake channel, same pancake time. 

 

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

Here at Colts Authority we are not members of the media. We are members of the gotcha media. 

 

Get it straight.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

Did you catch Polian the other day saying that both Luck and Griffin will struggle next year? Great insight actually. He explained how Manning and Harrison struggled to get their timing down due in Manning's rookie year. Said same thing will happen to these guys.

 

Love Polian on the radio.

Peyton for President
Peyton for President

Maybe he didn't and that's why he drafted so many players who didn't seem to fit the system. Wheeler and Hughes to name a few. Maybe he was out of his element.

SpencerFGray
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The mention of Brad Wells got my curiosity piqued to go look back over at Stampede Blue.  After checking back there, I'm reminded just how lucky we are to have Colts Authority *shudder*

Peyton for President
Peyton for President

 @SpencerFGray Yea, sometimes when i get really bored and just want something to read I'll check it out, but I seriously can't stand that site.

 

Peyton for President
Peyton for President

Ah brain fart. I was going to say that everyone blames Polian for the type of players the Colts drafted. Smaller, faster, which many believe leads to injury. Isn't that on Irsay since he hired Dungy and Polian was drafting talent to fit that scheme?

chewie_33
chewie_33

Wheeler was never really good, he was ok, but never really good.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

Cam Newton started fast and finished at a strong "Meh!"

He came in at #12 in DYAR just ahead of Andy Dalton and Alex Smith. That's a pretty good rookie year. Still, it's not as if Newton just rewrote what we should expect of rookies. Andy Dalton was pretty good too but never gets that credit. 

chewie_33
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 @coltsauth_todd Newton, Dalton, Ryan and Flacco are all exceptions. The regular rookie QB struggles.

chewie_33
chewie_33

I expect an matt ryan first season out of him. 3200 yards 18 Tds 15 ints. And 300 rushing yards,

chewie_33
chewie_33

That is beeing optimistic, because QBs tend to struggle in their rookie years. Cam Newton's of the world are exceptions.

chewie_33
chewie_33

Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb and Akili Smith... anyone???

chewie_33
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Yes his ceeling is above his floor. "Ba-dum-tss"

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

Ryan Tannehill has certainly climbed into the top 10 after his pro day. He's hurt too. 

 

Remember 1983? 6 QBs in the first round. Three of them are hall of famers. Is it that good? Nope but among those selected in 83 was Todd Blackledge at number 7. He was a bona fide bust for Kansas City.

 

You can bet that if 3 or 4 QBs are taken there will be at least one that underperforms significantly.

LovinBlue
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Interesting - I didn't know that about the 1983 draft.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

 @LovinBlue Todd Eason was in that class as well and he made a Pro Bowl. Ken O'Brien wasn't horrible in New York either. The remaining members? Elway, Kelly and Marino. The last one drafted of the 6 in the first round? Marino...go figure.

chewie_33
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Olajuwon was to good for the rockets to pass up... even for MJ, but Portland never had a very good excuse.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

 @chewie_33 Good point. Olajuwon worked out pretty well. It's not as if you could plop Michael Jordan down in Houston with Ralph Sampson and make a go of it. Houston was very much a team focused on what happened in the paint.

chewie_33
chewie_33

 @coltsauth_todd Yeah, and that's the argument we make for the captains hindsights of the world. You may have the michael jordan at 2, but if Luck is what we think he is it is still a great pick.

coltsauth_todd
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How much better our world would be if all those teams passed over Mr. Uggs one more round...

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

People perhaps overlook that Whalen actually lead the Cardinal in receiving--not Fleener. Fleener lead the team in yards per catch and TDs. At the same time they rushed for more than 2700 yards.

chewie_33
chewie_33

 @coltsauth_todd Whalen isn't really fast, fleener maybe faster then him, and then he got hurt.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

 @chewie_33 Definitely not fast nor what you'd call a great route runner. And that was Luck's best receiver.

chewie_33
chewie_33

Luck could lead the NCAA in yards and TDs if stanford were a pass first team. However was the number 7 in pass atempts in the PAC-12. Think about it.

coltsauth_todd
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Great point. Stanford had pretty weak receivers. If you watched Ben Roethlisberger at Miami (OH) they weren't much different. Both teams had a tight end as a top 3 receiver and tended to spread the ball among several decent, but not great receivers. Arians and a few good receivers were the catalyst to turn Big Ben into a deep threat.

chewie_33
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Luck is the only guy since the guy  that used to wear the 18 jersey, that could read defenses in a similar fashion.

chewie_33
chewie_33

Alex smith never played in the Pac-12

Nathan Haza
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Jim Plunkett.

coltsauth_todd
coltsauth_todd

 @Nathan Haza  Plunkett is one of two NFL starting QBs  with multiple rings to not be in the Hall of Fame. 

coltsauth_todd
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Carson Palmer...well at least some success.

chewie_33
chewie_33

Lehigh cheerleaders!!! anyone saw them in the NCAA tournament?

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